10-18-98 12:35:20 Hethmon has a new FTP server *almost* ready for release 10-18-98 12:35:38 Cool, cool! 10-18-98 12:35:47 Have you seen StarOffice 5? 10-18-98 12:35:59 nope, not yet ,... 10-18-98 12:36:06 How about Papyrus? 10-18-98 12:36:12 bbiab .. I gotta catch the BMT guys before they live 10-18-98 12:36:15 leave, even 10-18-98 12:36:16 I'd heard that was going to be debuted there. 10-18-98 12:36:17 okay... 10-18-98 12:36:41 DeBolle: Don't know exactly whats happening. Lot of folks think it has to do with previous beta's and demanged newsgroup index files. I however never had a beta installed. Did however notice that when NS2 is present when NC4 is installed they 'share' the newsgroups. Possible NS2 and NC4 are not 'quite' compatible. 10-18-98 12:36:51 freiheit: well, that's all the apps I can come up with right now... puts you 2 closer though :) 10-18-98 12:37:21 You know, I don't remember seeing Papyrus 10-18-98 12:37:29 sProject, thanks man! I appreciate it. :) 10-18-98 12:37:47 who does Papyrus? 10-18-98 12:38:06 Ummm.... 10-18-98 12:38:20 ROM-Logicware 10-18-98 12:38:22 from Germany 10-18-98 12:38:44 Did you get a look at Rover, new from the Sundial folks? 10-18-98 12:40:17 henkk: I thought that too. I uninstalled ns/2 completely however, including the javaos2 dirs, installed nc/2 from scratch and still have this problem. 10-18-98 12:40:52 I think we lost WS'98 again 10-18-98 12:40:52 MarkA what exactly is Rover 10-18-98 12:41:05 Hard to describe, but... 10-18-98 12:41:16 DeBolle:I modified NS2's NETSCAPE.INI so NS2 & NC4 do no longer share stuff. Don't think it really helped though... 10-18-98 12:41:18 it's a desktop enhancement tool... 10-18-98 12:41:27 * freiheit wonders about Clearlook 2.0... 10-18-98 12:41:39 MarkA like desktop enhancer or OD 10-18-98 12:42:04 very small (1 inchx1 inch), sits on your desktop, 10-18-98 12:42:19 and makes things very easy to access, among other things... 10-18-98 12:42:21 MarkA ... and what does it do 10-18-98 12:42:48 what's especially neat, is that it stays out of your way, but is always there, 10-18-98 12:42:51 MarkA ahh, like stardock's object navigator, maybe 10-18-98 12:43:17 like the tab launchpad, in a fshion, it.. 10-18-98 12:43:53 MarkA oh, well i already got that, does it do more than tab launchpad,..? 10-18-98 12:44:04 easiely and quickly gives you access to command lines, multimedia players, group of apps,... 10-18-98 12:44:25 ,,... is there a trial demo available 10-18-98 12:44:27 infinitely configurable,... 10-18-98 12:44:28 henkk: Is it possible that there's something changed in the way NC uses hpfs? I didn't try it yet on fat, but I suspect it's a file open (or close) error. 10-18-98 12:44:41 and so on. I don't give it justice. 10-18-98 12:44:51 I don't know if there's a trial version. 10-18-98 12:44:58 ssh shell 10-18-98 12:45:01 oops 10-18-98 12:45:04 Oh, it also has a bunch of icons and icon tools 10-18-98 12:45:23 hi 10-18-98 12:45:27 Debolle:Haven't got a clue, but it seems to me NC gets stuck will trying to decide which posts I already read. 10-18-98 12:45:33 hi LeWhoo 10-18-98 12:45:47 How is Warpstock going? 10-18-98 12:45:47 bigger than last year? 10-18-98 12:45:53 MarkA: is it available somewhere? 10-18-98 12:46:07 Hay Aram :) 10-18-98 12:46:16 hello sProject 10-18-98 12:46:17 yes, it's now availalbe from Sundial Systems 10-18-98 12:46:19 they got you working I see :) 10-18-98 12:46:33 MarkA: thanks 10-18-98 12:46:36 so I suspect all the usual places where youy can get their stuff. 10-18-98 12:46:37 yep, I'm here until about 3 10-18-98 12:46:39 re Egon 10-18-98 12:46:50 henkk: Possible - I noticed it hangs when it has cleaned 200 headers from the newsgroup. Thus I suspect some I/O error on the file that holds the headers. 10-18-98 12:46:52 re's egon 10-18-98 12:47:03 no answer... 10-18-98 12:47:43 DeBolle:Everything is possible. Just hope IBM will come out with a fix soon.... 10-18-98 12:47:49 sProject: quite welcome (SCOUG saw a demo of it, and I bought it immediately) 10-18-98 12:48:27 re digi 10-18-98 12:48:32 * digi anything new? 10-18-98 12:48:33 freiheit: great! :) 10-18-98 12:48:45 So what if anything have I missed? 10-18-98 12:48:46 henkk: I remember something about this being a known error - 'k zoek even de juiste URL. 10-18-98 12:48:50 * digi hi os2warp :) 10-18-98 12:49:15 MADlog, Abraxas has 16 new VOICE memberships and sProject has 3. 10-18-98 12:49:24 And then some stuff about OS/2 software. :) 10-18-98 12:49:50 Debolle does that translate to - a mistake in judgement? 10-18-98 12:50:13 digi:DeBolle is dutch for theRoundOne 10-18-98 12:50:21 nope, it's not 10-18-98 12:50:24 ok guyz, l8r 10-18-98 12:50:37 * digi henkk that was a little mean :) 10-18-98 12:50:38 ...if not, then I still need 2 more. 10-18-98 12:51:02 digi, henkk - that's right :) Ik ben aan de gezette kant van een dunne corpulentie :) 10-18-98 12:51:06 digi, makes sense -- De = the, Bolle = ball 10-18-98 12:51:08 :) 10-18-98 12:51:37 henkk: Kijk eens op http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Communicator.html 10-18-98 12:51:44 * digi :) 10-18-98 12:52:15 henkk: No problem - I was already called 'De Bolle' since Kindergarten :) 10-18-98 12:52:24 Aram: did anyone get a head count there? 10-18-98 12:52:32 ok, Abraxas then :) 10-18-98 12:52:44 No head count, yet 10-18-98 12:53:12 * digi kindergarten - The child's garden :) 10-18-98 12:53:32 Last I heard was 300+ (there were at least 250 in the room fro the door prizes last night) 10-18-98 12:53:50 * digi High School = there's a drug problem there. 10-18-98 12:53:52 Okay, well I have to go for a while -- if anyone does find another _current_ OS/2 app that they can't find listed on my site (http://www.tstonramp.com/~freiheit/os2apps.shtml) please e-mail me with the name, the URL, and if possible whether it's freeware/shareware/commercialware. I _really_ want to reach 1,100 by the end of today! 10-18-98 12:54:08 See you all later! 10-18-98 12:54:14 bye 10-18-98 13:25:14 sorry about that disconnect 10-18-98 13:25:19 * digi sreams...ah andys back..digi runs down the hall!!! 10-18-98 13:25:41 Have any of the WarpStocker's joined while I was gone? 10-18-98 13:26:08 heya! I'm back :-) 10-18-98 13:26:17 re darkstar 10-18-98 13:26:27 * MADlog belongs to VOICE and POSSI and perhaps soon SCOUG. 10-18-98 13:26:39 * digi sprinkles fairly dust all over darkstar! 10-18-98 13:26:49 things here in Chicago are beinning to wind down.....Sundial has a drawing in a few minutes... 10-18-98 13:26:59 any news from warpstok? :-) 10-18-98 13:27:08 warpstock, sorry 10-18-98 13:27:12 darkstar: what do you want to know? 10-18-98 13:27:17 os2r have you seen longstaff? 10-18-98 13:27:24 digi: had lunch with him 10-18-98 13:27:32 digi: good question ;-) 10-18-98 13:27:44 most of the irc folk are having dinner together this evening. alas, I have to leave at the close 10-18-98 13:27:47 cool when you see him say hi for me. 10-18-98 13:27:54 digi: will do 10-18-98 13:28:51 What is the attendance like there? 10-18-98 13:28:55 os2r say hi to Longstaff from me too :) 10-18-98 13:29:01 being a IRC moron, why did 'a timelimit' threw me out? 10-18-98 13:29:21 Longstaff must be gettin hi 10-18-98 13:29:31 buzzzzz 10-18-98 13:29:47 Alliem: no definite numbers yet but the numbers on the door prize tickets went to the 700's from 000 10-18-98 13:30:12 700? Last year there were 400, right? 10-18-98 13:30:14 That sounds great! 10-18-98 13:30:22 Y2k problem even on the drawing...whew. 10-18-98 13:30:24 fine :-) 10-18-98 13:30:25 hebkK: possably unregistered OpenChat 1 hour limit. 10-18-98 13:30:29 I think more like 350 10-18-98 13:30:51 marka: lat year? 10-18-98 13:30:51 Figures doubled eh? 10-18-98 13:30:54 lat = last 10-18-98 13:30:55 henkK: I guess your client (OC/2) has a time out if it's not tregistered. 10-18-98 13:31:06 hmmm an 100% increase 10-18-98 13:31:13 that`s gooooooood 10-18-98 13:31:18 We were going to give 1 or 2 raffle tickets per person, plus the people that registered as platinum got an extra 10-18-98 13:31:26 darkstar: that includes the platinum folks who got three tickets......there were at least 250 people at the drawing last night so the numbers are over 300 10-18-98 13:31:32 so less than 350 this year 10-18-98 13:31:36 MADLog: could be, good suggestion 10-18-98 13:31:44 Now the question is .... was IBM marketing people at Warp Stock... Taking Stock in what was going on? 10-18-98 13:31:48 anyone know if the ROM Logicware folks were there demoing the papyrus wordprocessor? 10-18-98 13:32:14 os2r: Anyone from IBM there other then the Aurora folks? 10-18-98 13:32:48 * MADlog has a platinum pass. :-( 10-18-98 13:32:52 MADlog: NO ONE from IBM was here......Steve King spoke for Aurora but not as a rep from IBM 10-18-98 13:33:16 MADlog: unless you consider the Lotus rep. 10-18-98 13:33:22 What the heck is wrong with IBM...they tick me off...They are such wimps. 10-18-98 13:34:14 is2r: Ddi the Lotus rep have any comments about speeding up SS4W or getting rid of OPEN32? 10-18-98 13:34:16 digi they have stated public that they have no interest in the SOHO or consumer market! 10-18-98 13:34:17 They are assholes. M$ would kill to have user support like this. The only way M$ gets support is by paying for it or bullying people to do it. 10-18-98 13:34:31 os2r: oh, now I understand. I thought of 700 atendees 10-18-98 13:35:05 Andy: the Lotus man was just fielding complaints....told us that there is a maintenance release coming for ss/2...no date. Not downloadable and only in the form of a cd 10-18-98 13:35:23 os2r: well that's good news. 10-18-98 13:35:38 * digi that is so sad.... Maybe we need to start emailing they heck out of them, and start a letter writing project to the major stock holders of the corp. 10-18-98 13:35:48 MADlog if msft had user support (ppl who use the product) like us, they'd been out of business ages ago! :) 10-18-98 13:36:08 digi: Try the 21Warp and IBMStock pages 10-18-98 13:36:16 ,... a few thousand dedicated users, does a niche product make! :) 10-18-98 13:36:17 but the staroffice man was here and it looks pretty good. It was available here and is now generally available 10-18-98 13:36:46 The other things is this. A lot of us are not the normal so called consumer. Gee last time I look I ran a business. 10-18-98 13:37:22 DaBUll: That's true, but I'm sure something like WS gives BG fits. 10-18-98 13:38:20 MADlog i SERIOUS doubt it,... prolly thinks no more of WS than thinking about what's on TV when he's taling a dump! :) 10-18-98 13:38:43 taking even 10-18-98 13:38:59 ---rules 120.1 Serious talk not allowed on the channel. 10-18-98 13:39:23 HAhaHahAHaH! 10-18-98 13:39:25 !ask 21warp 10-18-98 13:39:26 [21warp] A program to convince IBM to release a Warp 5 client by pledging pre-sales. http://www.jmast.se/21warp/ (MADlog) 10-18-98 13:39:28 sorry, i appologize 10-18-98 13:39:52 Appologize for whta? 10-18-98 13:40:03 see digi 10-18-98 13:40:05 hey, that's funny :-) 10-18-98 13:40:09 !ask Warpstock 10-18-98 13:40:10 [Warpstock] http://www.warpstock.org for information (mandie) 10-18-98 13:40:17 cool :-) 10-18-98 13:40:52 DaBull: Have you read the Microsoft Files? Bill worries about any and all competition. The guy is a loon, rich or not. 10-18-98 13:41:09 * digi bbl ... the water heater is now producing Hot Water ... Now I can take my annual shower... Ah what a feeling. 10-18-98 13:41:41 I haven't seen the SCOUG folks on in a while.. have they bailed? 10-18-98 13:41:47 MADlog what competition,..? 10-18-98 13:41:57 os2r: Any other new apps released? 10-18-98 13:42:35 hell IBM has just about killed OS/2 by itself :) 10-18-98 13:42:35 *** digi is now known as digi_BBL 10-18-98 13:42:43 Andy: a new version of clearlook, a paint program (that we are the first to see and is not yet even announced), and Rover. 10-18-98 13:43:07 Andy: there were pics taken during the presentation so I presume they'll make their way to the site for warpstock DaBull: Well until IBM tucked it's tail between it's legs and started sniffing Billy boys butt, I guess that just leaves Sun and Linux. What is Rover? oooo i got to see those pics os2r: paint program? by which company? Terrulen: an interesting desktop utility that does lots of stuff...hard to explain but I think there's some info on their website darkstar: theirs written from the ground up for os2 * Terrulen downloaded something called "Tiger Paint" for OS/2 the other day. Is that it? Terrulen: don't know...their name here was warpaint warpaint... I have heard it before... hm. os2r: Do you have a URL for Clearlook and Rover ? clearlook: www.sundialsystems.com Andy: off hand don't know...it's sundial's site Andy i checked at sundialsystems, they have no reference to rover Their site doesn't seem to say anything about Rover or Warpaint. Terrulen: warpaint was only shown today via an internal build...if you ask them they'll tell you nothing....that's the benefit of being here. :-) * henkK has set away! (auto away after idling [15 min]) [Log:ON] .gz. log:ON DaBull: Rover is due Nov 98 But what is it? Bah, I'm the editor of OS/2 e-Zine!, I should be told about these things :-) MADlog: it's hard to explain....it does a lot of helpful things and takes up little space It's not like BoB is it? :-) MADlog: they only had about 10 minutes to go over that particular program...send them an email... And remember folks you heard all this here in #voice. where are all the pics?? ---NewsFlash--- IBM announces today that OS/2 will be released under the GPL. This bold move is in attempt to thwart Microsoft. * Terrulen falls out of his chair. "No! Really?" :-) muahahaha MADlog: from the sheet they handed out.."instant access to all OS2 components plus programs, folders, and files used most frequently, apply new icons w/drag and drop ease, go to any location on your system immediately w/o searching drive trees, options for a variety of views, icon scheme to provode automatic icon assignment according to your specifications; new icons to use and assign....." developed by Orange Hill Software hmmmm the doj vs m$ starts tommorow too --===_362A63B7_== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit