| <crimso_> | By the way, Walter. I talked to several people over here regarding the price for a VOICE CD.
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| <crimso_> | The common opinion was that about US$3.50 would be acceptable.
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| <MADeCSPro> | I uploaded it, but it's not html, so it's one big paragraph
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| <MADeCSPro> | http://www.os2voice.org/agenda/08202001.htm
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| <MADeCSPro> | what is a .dwp file?
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| <crimso_> | Describe
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| <crimso_> | The word processor..
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| <MADeCSPro> | Ah, I don't have that installed at the moment. But I think LWP reads those. Actually it looks like plain text
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| <Walter> | Describe.
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| <mandie> | how about just posting one item on the agenda at a time right here
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| <MADeCSPro> | OK, I saved it as HTML in LWP it is readable now
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| <MADeCSPro> | http://www.os2voice.org/agenda/08202001.htm
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| <Walter> | OK, Let's FINALLY call this meeting to ORDER.
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| <Walter> | Is Sector taking the log?
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| <Sector> | But of course
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| <Walter> | Thank you Sector!
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| <Walter> | 3. The Directors have discussed the possibily of reducing the advertising fees in the Newsletter.
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| <MADeCSPro> | That's sponsorship fees, not advertising, though in the end I suppose it's about the same.
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| <Walter> | I apolozie--sponsorship fees.
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| <crimso_> | Good idea. We may want to have a look at the way OS/2 eZine does it though.
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| <crimso_> | At the moment developers can pay for adversiting by giving licenses of their programs which then can be won by the authors.
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| <Walter> | You may look up the suggest rate of fees on the Agenda at http://www.os2voice.org/agenda/08202001.htm . This URL works on my system using the latest refresh of Netscape 4.61 .
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| <crimso_> | We could use licenses as a giveaway at SpeakUps, for instance.
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| <crimso_> | Hm, looking at the prices I think that we could use a category that is even cheaper. Say, $10.
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| <Walter> | I'll give everyone a few minutes to read the web page.
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| <MADeCSPro> | I had also proposed a free page for small ads for freeware developers and general users seeking other OS/2 users to meet with in their area.
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| <mandie> | I like that idea
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| <Walter> | b. The Chair will entertain a motion to accept the above rates (or a modified version thereof) for sponsorship in the Newsletter.
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| * | Sector motions
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| <Walter> | Is there a second?
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| <MADeCSPro> | second
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| <mandie_> | I motion that we accept the rates as indicated on the agenda with the addition of the free page per Marks specification
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| <Walter> | Discussion.
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| <crimso_> | mandie_: I second that.
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| <Walter> | What motion are we talking about?
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| <crimso_> | Walter: To add the page that Mark suggested.
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| <MADeCSPro> | The one on the rates. judy is asking to add my proposal as well to it
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| <Walter> | I believe there was already a motion on the table when Mandie made hers.
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| <Sector> | The motion on the table had been seconded before mandie_ made her motion
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| <Walter> | Are agree to change Sector
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| <Walter> | 's motion to include Mark's addition?
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| <Sector> | Ok with me
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| <mandie> | addition of the free page per Marks specification
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| <crimso_> | As I said before IMHO an additional, lower rate would be useful.
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| <Walter> | crimson_, do you have any stipulates on the "lower"?
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| <crimso_> | What about $10 per month? I don't think that the average shareware author would like to pay much more.
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| <Walter> | Does any one second the modified motion?
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| <MADeCSPro> | crimso: Our current proposal is $25 for two months. that's pretty close to that
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| <crimso_> | MADeCSPro: That would be ok with me.
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| <crimso_> | I hereby second the modified motion.
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| <Walter> | Is there really a modified motion now?
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| <mandie> | Walter: you asked me to restate the "modified" motion and I did
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| <mandie> | I motion that we accept the rates as indicated on the agenda with the
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| <mandie> | addition of the free page per Marks specification
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| <Walter> | Mandie, As I understand it there is currently (under considersation) a rate of $25 for two months which crimso_ accepted.
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| <Walter> | Are you saying there is also a free page?
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| <MADeCSPro> | Walter: That is what the modified rates call for. $25/month, with 2 months for one for limited time.
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| <MADeCSPro> | Did I not mention the free page earlier?
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| <mandie> | Walter: Mark had suggested a free page for freeware developers and ppl that would like to communicate with others in their area
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| <Walter> | Under what terms will a person be eligible for a free rate?
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| <mandie> | Mad: yes, you did
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| <Walter> | OK, now everything's clear.
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| <Walter> | Any further discussion?
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| <Walter> | Are we ready for the vote?
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| <mandie> | yes
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| <crimso_> | yep
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| <Walter> | All in favour of the modified motion, please type Aye.
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| <mandie> | aye
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| <crimso_> | Aye.
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| <MADeCSPro> | Aye
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| <Walter> | All opposed to the modified motion, please type Nay.
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| <mandie> | there are no nay's
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| <Walter> | I wonder how many are "officially" abstaining.
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| <mandie> | or have just wandered off
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| <crimso_> | yeah
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| <Walter> | I suppose the motion carries, but I'm uncomfortable seeing such
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| <Walter> | an important motion carrying with that many potient abstentees.
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| <Walter> | Motion Carries.
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| <Sector> | Ok ok, Aye
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| <Walter> | If I could vote, my vote would be Aye as well.
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| <Walter> | 5. Next Order of Business.
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| <Walter> | Someone poke me gently if this belongs at the Board level, and not here, but VOICE has receive a letter from Tom Nadeau in which he wants to initiate a "Campaign to Improve Sound Card Support for OS/2"
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| <MADeCSPro> | No, it belongs here, but Tom is not here to tell us why he wants to do this.
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| <Walter> | The question is, Do we as Voice want to be associated with or involved with this?
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| <MADeCSPro> | Honestly I think we have enough on our plate that isn't getting done.
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| <Walter> | OK, so how do we set this up? Invite him as a guest.
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| <Walter> | I completely agree.
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| <MADeCSPro> | If Tom wants to discuss it he can come to a meeting.
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| <Walter> | OK, sounds good to me.
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| <Walter> | Anyone else have any opinions?
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| <crimso_> | Basically it's a good idea IMO. Multimedia is the weakest point of OS/2 and many PCI sound cards either are not supported or have crappy drivers.
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| * | Sector agrees with MADeCSPro
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| <Walter> | And ISA sound cards are becoming extinct, I know.
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| <MADeCSPro> | crimso: but isn't that more a job for Scitech or Netlabs?
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| <crimso_> | But as Mark said, we should try to get other things done first.
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| <mandie> | I agree with Mark
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| <Walter> | Ditto.
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| <mandie> | our focus needs to be on WarpDoctor
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| <Walter> | We can't do everything at once.
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| <crimso_> | MADeCSPro: The problem is resources.
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| <crimso_> | At the moment the only role I can see VOICE play is a supportive one.
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| <Walter> | I'm trying my best to get that message out to anyone who might be interested in VOICE.
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| <Walter> | Next Items of Business.
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| <Walter> | Again, these might belong at the BOD level.
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| <Walter> | 6. Status of WarpStock 2001 Support.
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| <MADeCSPro> | One interjection on Warpstock 2001. Warpstock is now accepting checks in CDN funds - http://www.warpstock.org/2001/registration/registration.html#mail
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| <Walter> | The cheque has been sent to the Treasurer for the booth. We have yet not received notification of receipt.
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| <Walter> | WarpStock Event Team has received notification of our intent to rent/buy a boot.
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| <Walter> | We still desperately need people to man the booth.
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| <crimso_> | And the Warpstock Europe Event Team has likewise received notification of our wish to attend.
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| <Walter> | That I know of Mark, Walter, and I believe Sector have agreed to help out in this area. However, we still need more.
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| <Walter> | Mark, what do you have for us?
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| <Walter> | Maybe I should say what can you add? :-)
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| <MADeCSPro> | Have in regard to what?
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| <Walter> | Our Warpstock 2001 support status.
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| <Sector> | Ummm, couldn't have been me...
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| <MADeCSPro> | Warpstock? nothing other then people have to start registering or there won't be a Warpstock 2002
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| <Walter> | Item 7. New Business.
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| <Swanee> | Because of circumstances... I may not have a booth but will be trying to get there anyway... If I do... I'll be available to help out.
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| * | mandie has just sent an invitation to the Warpstock team/bod for a speakup
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| <Walter> | I repeat: is there any new business?
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| <mandie> | none here
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| <Swanee> | None here that I know of
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| <mandie> | Walter: are you still with us?
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| <Walter> | Mandie has suggested "that we hold the Warpstock tickets as a door prize when we have the Warpstock speakup." That's fine with me.
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| <Swanee> | I'll second that emotion
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| <Swanee> | I'll also donate something for a prize for that speakup.
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| <mandie> | I think that we will have more people attend the speakup that will actually be attending Warpstock
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| <Walter> | All in favour, type Aye.
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| <Swanee> | AYE
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| <crimso_> | Aye.
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| <mandie> | aye
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| <MADeCSPro> | aye
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| <Ltning> | Did anyone consider that a warpstock ticket may be worthless to a vast amount of the people joining a speakup?
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| <Walter> | Opposed,
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| <Ltning> | (sorry for mixing in..)
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| <mandie> | Ltning: yes, but it can be priceless to those that want to attend but haven't bought a ticket yet :)
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| <Ltning> | Well I still think that for the majority of people even interested in going to warpstock, the ticket itself isn't the obstacle..
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| <Walter> | Carried.
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| <Ltning> | So while it's a 'nice price', it should have an alternative or something.. Just my 2 cents ;)
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| <MADeCSPro> | Ltning: Unfortunately that is all we have to offer.
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| <Walter> | Meeting adjourned.
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