[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:17:56 ] <MADodel> Shall we begin?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:18:10 ] * Asteroid settles down in her seat and gets comfy, now that Stan is here.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:18:16 ] <Stan> Sorry to be late, I don't IRC -- usually.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:18:17 ] <mandie> I'd like to welcome the Warpstock 98 folks
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:18:27 ] <Swordedge> yes
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:18:45 ] <mandie> I have an announcement to all attendees and then the Warpstock folks can intro themselves
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:19:21 ] <mandie> VOICE has decided to make tonights drawing open to all attendees
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:19:33 ] <trixer> YAY!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:19:35 ] <SunnyBear> whoa
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:19:38 ] <SunnyBear> awesome
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:19:39 ] <Longstaff> good decision!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:19:44 ] <Arkay> thank you
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:19:50 ] <Asteroid> mandie Wow!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:19:54 ] <mandie> If you would like to be included in the drawing..please /msg abraxas with a # from 1 - 100
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:19:54 ] <Swordedge> excellent
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:19:57 ] <os2r> thanks
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:20:06 ] <Stevious> w00t!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:20:08 ] <mandie> after the speakup we will ask Sunnybear to select a #
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:20:22 ] <mandie> first prize will be a Platinum pass and one night at the Wyndham
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:20:26 ] <SunnyBear> wheres the hat and blindfold?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:20:31 ] <mandie> second place will be a Platinum pass
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:20:34 ] <mandie> sunny :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:20:55 ] <mandie> now, take it away Warpstock folks..I will be back in 20 mins :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:20:58 ] * jokerl relized that the speakup session was tonight about twenty minutes ago... he's never mowed the lawn faster in his life
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:20:59 ] <mandie> oh..hiy lbf :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:21:17 ] <Stan> Does that include Warpstock comm. members? We have to pay for ours too......
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:21:20 ] <Asteroid> Stan, I think that's your cue.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:21:21 ] <os2hq> joker LOL~!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:21:44 ] <Asteroid> Stan, Sure, I figure that since we have to PAY money, we can SAVE it too!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:21:48 ] <trixer> maybe mandies announcement should be the topic?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:21:49 ] <jokerl> and that's all the comic relief that you're getting
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:21:52 ] <Confed2> Good Evening all, I had to get a Client or I would have been here earlier
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:21:57 ] <trixer> for latecomers?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:22:09 ] <Asteroid> trixer, good idea. Would you do the honors?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:22:19 ] <TheRef> Oh no, Network will provide the comic relief!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:22:21 ] <trixer> Aster; I ain't an op
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:22:25 ] <mandie> ok..bbiab
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:22:38 ] <Network> Ok, Bob No problem ;)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:23:10 ] <Asteroid> Ah... just to get things started, let me toss Stan a softball or two.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:23:29 ] <Mr_Warp> Hi !
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:23:29 ] <Stan> toss, 'em
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:23:30 ] <Asteroid> Stan... why don't you tell the folks here where Warpstock stands... kind of an overview of the current state of affairs.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:23:31 ] * jokerl will be the catcher
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:23:41 ] <whgiii> hey hey hey
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:23:47 ] <Stan> We have overcome our biggest hurdles
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:23:50 ] <jokerl> whgiii!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:23:59 ] <Stan> that is, finding a place, the wyndham
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:24:01 ] <Confed2> Yea, we have a place to stay :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:24:09 ] <os2hq> Yes, that was #1.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:24:19 ] <Stan> and finding new people to lead the committee
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:24:24 ] <os2hq> yep.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:24:33 ] <whgiii> hey jokerl
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:24:33 ] * jokerl just spilled coke on a zip disk.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:24:37 ] <Confed2> I just saw a Wyndham Hotel in Columbus, NICE PLACE!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:24:48 ] <trixer> I think the effort has done an extraordinary job and keeping things together
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:25:02 ] <Stan> Wyndham are very nice hotels, we should be very happy there
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:25:16 ] * trixer bows to all those who stood their ground
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:25:35 ] <Stan> We have still alot of things to do
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:25:57 ] <Stan> We have space for an additional 14 vendors I want to fill
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:26:22 ] <jokerl> is there any vendors from last year that decided not to return?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:26:27 ] <jokerl> er... are?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:26:34 ] <Confed2> Well, Centari Computer will be there, I just have to finalize things on my end
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:26:52 ] <Stan> and we have to get the word out that Warpstock is where we can all get together
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:27:08 ] <Swordedge> current number of vendors?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:27:25 ] <Stan> Almost all vendors have returned, we have a larger vendor space to fill this year
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:28:02 ] <Asteroid> Stan, and you should point out that nobody has picked up the phone to call last years's vendors yet... the majority who have returned did it on no more than a "would you like to...?" email.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:28:21 ] <Stan> exactly, warpstock has a good rep
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:28:45 ] <Stan> some who have committed, eg, innoval simply haven't made a formal announcment
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:28:51 ] <Confed2> Hold on a second........Who is who? Maybe intro's are in order
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:28:55 ] <MADodel> Any word on IBM/Lotus having any presence?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:29:01 ] <Asteroid> Confed2 The need to finalize things isn't unusual. Several people are in that position. (heck, I haven't even made my hotel reservations yet)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:29:13 ] <Stan> Asteroid is Esther, isn't it?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:29:22 ] <trixer> wait
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:29:29 ] <Asteroid> Confed2 Stan==Stan Sidlov, Guy In Charge Extraordinaire
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:29:30 ] <trixer> I think Esther is Asteroid
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:29:34 ] * Asteroid is Esther
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:29:35 ] <whgiii> whgiii == William H. Geiger III
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:29:36 ] <Stan> lbf is larry
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:29:42 ] <Confed2> Asteroid........Thank You, I don't feel so bad now :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:30:01 ] <NewOrder> here's and idea for the 14 extra vender stops should you not beable to fill them... have a webbnet stop. undernet #OS/2 spot efnet #Os/2 spot.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:30:02 ] <MADodel> mandie = Judy McDermott of Judy's Warped World fame
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:30:05 ] <Asteroid> No problem, Confed2, we should have identified people earlier.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:30:06 ] <NewOrder> stops = spots
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:30:26 ] <Stevious> #bigblue spot
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:30:27 ] <whgiii> MADodel: I think they are to busy being a Micky$loth ISV
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:30:27 ] <Network> network == Jason Kowalczyk
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:30:37 ] <Confed2> Thank You.... I'm one of those old BBS SYsops :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:30:42 ] <jokerl> ... and I'm an addict
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:30:43 ] <os2hq> brb.....
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:30:47 ] <NewOrder> and #vioce stop :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:30:50 ] <NewOrder> spot even
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:31:09 ] <MADodel> whgiii: sad but probably true.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:31:16 ] * NewOrder sits as rs.internic.net X-fers at 30bytes/sec
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:31:25 ] <Confed2> Network, how are all the networking connections coming along?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:31:28 ] <Asteroid> NewOrder I think we'll have the happy problem of not needing to consider that option. At this point last year, IIRC, Warpstock had only 4 or 5 vendors committed. With all the attention on confirming a site, nobody has really STARTED on the promotional activities... you ain't seen nothin' yet!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:31:50 ] <Stevious> has anyone actually contacted IBM/Lotus?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:32:05 ] <whgiii> Stevious: do we really need them there?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:32:23 ] <Swordedge> fine with a down load in the backgroud....
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:32:28 ] <Stevious> whgiii: probably not, but someone asked if they were gonna be there...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:32:31 ] <jokerl> well, though it is a subtle note, they DO make the OS...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:32:34 ] <trixer> Stevious, as I understand it, they planned the dmeonstration of lotus on an NT box last year
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:32:34 ] <freiheit> need, no--want, perhaps--after all, without them we'd have no OS/2
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:32:36 ] <Asteroid> whgiii Well, they *do* have a couple of OS/2 applications that it would be nice to see demonstrated.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:32:37 ] <NewOrder> network connections... comming fin I guess... I'm the only one working on them and there nothing good on the radio to get me moving :) and the internic.net is slowing me down.. :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:32:38 ] <Stan> *I* would like IBM/Lotus there --- more to see *us* than for us to see them
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:32:53 ] <jokerl> I don't think they want to make it, but they do
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:33:13 ] * MADodel reminds NewOrder that VOICE members get a sizable discount on SpellGuard
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:33:17 ] <Stan> I want to see the new communicator, java based notes client, new VA v2.0
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:33:25 ] <NewOrder> hahahahahahhaha :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:33:27 ] <Network> confed2: Well We are currently working on getting the Inet connection. And already a few loaner piece or equipment, But we will ne more
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:33:36 ] <Confed2> I myself would have rather "Kicked IBM out!" they do not support us, so why invite them
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:33:38 ] <Longstaff> i would like to see some ibm and lotus presence
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:33:44 ] * NewOrder notes as suggesting in #Os/2 on undernet that my ISDN line will enable me to make spelling erros FASTER! :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:33:47 ] <Stevious> anyway, the reason I asked is because I'd like to find out who's putting anything together for it...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:33:48 ] <Asteroid> I don't think anybody has contacted Lotus/IBM yet, at least not formally. Nobody has gotten in touch with the StarOffice folks either, or 3Com/USR (which has offices in Chicago), or... as you can see, there's plenty of work left to do.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:33:49 ] <NewOrder> errors even :))
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:34:20 ] <Swordedge> IBM should have a working Aurora by then
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:34:21 ] <whgiii> Confed2: I would like someone to contact the cookie man and let him know that they are *not* invited
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:34:22 ] <jokerl> Star Division confuses me... they give the personal edition of the linux ver away... why not OS/2?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:34:28 ] <Confed2> Network, just want to make sure, cause as a Vendor, I want to be able to confirm things with the store
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:34:32 ] <Stan> IBM has a working Aurora NOW.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:34:37 ] * NewOrder signed up for the aurora beta thing... :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:34:44 ] <freiheit> StarDivision (StarOffice) may choose to exhibit at Warpstock Europe, being already in Germany
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:35:11 ] <MADodel> whgiii: perhaps big Lou can run the crackers and beer concession?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:35:15 ] <Confed2> Well, I know Chris Graham will be there (hehehehe)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:35:34 ] <Asteroid> Stevious, Personally I'm hoping that YOU'll do a presentation on networking and connectivity issues. Between you and Buzzard, I think you know more than anyone else around.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:35:35 ] <Confed2> I bet big Lou would screw that up also!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:35:49 ] <jokerl> hehe
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:35:50 ] * JimLarson thinks IBM must be sent a formal friendly invitation
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:35:54 ] <trixer> jokerl, Stardivision would never have gained the popularity they have now if they charged for the linux version. The OS/2 version is a given and they must charge for it to regain lost capitol
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:36:04 ] * whgiii thinks the only thing more fun than M$ bashing is IBM/Lotus bashing :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:36:10 ] * Longstaff seconds JimLarson's suggestion
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:36:41 ] <Asteroid> Swordedge Steven King, the guy in charge of Warp Server and Aurora, told me ON THE RECORD that he really wanted to come to Warpstock and show off Aurora. (I hope someone is taking notes. ) Then again, I was told that King was reasssigned, a few weeks ago. I don't know for sure.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:37:09 ] * Swanee thirds JimLarson's suggestion
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:37:19 ] <jokerl> jeez... does anybody stay on the Aurora team for more than two weeks anymore?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:37:36 ] <Longstaff> Asteriod - that's where timing comes into it....move too soon and guys may get moved around or sumthin'
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:37:53 ] <Confed2> Joker....No, because they start making progress against IBM's wishes!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:37:56 ] <trixer> I always liked WordPro better than staroffice
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:38:11 ] <Arkay> Maybe, if he was reassigned, Steven King could suggest someone else to come.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:38:15 ] <Abraxas> A friendly reminder: Tonight's drawing is open to ANYONE interested in attending Warpstock 98 in Chicago. 1st prize is a Platinum Pass a 1 night at the Wyndham Northwest. 2nd Prize is a Platinum Pass. ... If you are interested in attending, and wish to be eligible for the drawing (at the end of tonight's meeting), /msg Abraxas and choose a number between 1 and 100
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:38:39 ] <jokerl> Confed2: heh
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:38:43 ] <NewOrder> any one as in non warpstock ppl?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:38:56 ] <trixer> NewOrder, yup
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:39:08 ] <Arkay> also, non-voice ppl
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:39:10 ] <SunnyBear> Trixer and I are declaring ourselves ineligible for this drawing...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:39:17 ] * NewOrder quickly loads up 99 more clones and picks the rest of hte numbers
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:39:21 ] <trixer> ditto
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:39:23 ] <Confed2> Abraxas..I thought that was just for VOICE members?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:39:43 ] * jokerl desparatly digs to find his voice member number
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:39:46 ] <freiheit> plans sometimes get altered
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:39:52 ] <NewOrder> sunny, wheres all the fun in not cheating? :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:40:07 ] <Abraxas> Change of plans .... the drawing is open to EVERYONE attending tonight's meeting
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:40:11 ] <trixer> NewOrder, I'm gonna start counting to ten now.....
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:40:19 ] <Asteroid> arkay That's what I figure. In any case, we do have one committment from an IBM techie to attend Warpstock. I don't think it'll be difficult to get IBM techies to attend -- most of THEM are still committed to OS/2, and they get energy by being surrounded with its supporters.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:40:35 ] <trixer> introductions please?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:40:38 ] <Confed2> Ok, I'll let some quick ones know.....it might help us :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:41:31 ] <Arkay> Asteroid: the question is, will IBM pay to send some people to speak? or will the techies have to pay for themselves?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:41:52 ] * NewOrder is having no luck and getting a number
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:41:57 ] <NewOrder> there! :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:42:03 ] <Stan> Usually, if the techies have a client in the area they can meet, then they can get IBM to pay
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:42:16 ] <SunnyBear> pick one from mkpasswd, NewOrder
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:42:19 ] <Asteroid> Arkay Actually, that's not our concern. One would hope that IBM would cover the expense for them, but that decision is between the employee and employer. We'll just be happy as long as they're there.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:42:44 ] * trixer picks neworders number for him....1097364
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:43:00 ] <NewOrder> but trixer, that's above 100. overflow error :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:43:11 ] <trixer> NewOrder, now yer getting the point
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:43:13 ] <trixer> :>
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:43:19 ] <Asteroid> Stan, do you have any update to share in regard to speakers?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:43:21 ] <Confed2> Yea, but we need to get some sort of commitment from IBM, they make the darn thing
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:43:22 ] <Arkay> Asteroid: right. it would just be easier for them if they could get IBM to pay, however, I won't hold my breath. :-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:43:28 ] <MADodel> Arkay: IBM spend money on OS/2?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:43:39 ] <trixer> ptackbar, hiyas
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:43:47 ] <Confed2> That's what I say MAD
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:43:48 ] <Arkay> MADodel: Sorry, I lost my head for a second. :-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:43:51 ] <Swordedge> asside from call vendors, what else needs to be done?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:43:53 ] <Asteroid> Confed2 To be fair, nobody has gotten in touch with IBM directly about Warpstock at this point, for the same reasons they haven't called 3Com or any number of other people.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:44:00 ] <ptackbar> hi
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:44:12 ] <Stan> No, we are gearing up now for a two pronged attack to fill speaker and vendor slots
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:44:23 ] <Confed2> Well, wasn't the original place supposed to be at the IBM building?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:44:27 ] <Asteroid> Unless... confed2, was that the sound of a volunteer hand waving in the air? Wow, thanks! I'm sure that Stan will find a good place to put you to work. :-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:44:35 ] <jokerl> uggh.... accidentally clicked on the close button
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:44:48 ] <os2hq> Stan: remember, I have a couple of talks up my sleeve.... I've just been too busy to post them.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:45:02 ] <Confed2> I have said from the beginning.................I'm willing to help where ever you guys say I can
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:45:09 ] <Stan> Well, do so, so we can plan on getting you a bigger room
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:45:14 ] <Asteroid> os2hq NOTHING counts unless it's in the calendar, remember. You'd better find the time to write 'em up.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:45:19 ] <os2hq> heh.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:45:24 ] <os2hq> Yep.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:45:34 ] * Asteroid studiously gives herself the same lecture about the sessions she'd proposed running.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:45:39 ] <trixer> os2hq, handle it :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:45:46 ] <Confed2> OK.......so much is going by.............What am I doing :):):):)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:45:49 ] <os2hq> trix: lol!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:46:20 ] <Swordedge> what is on the calendar, any thing
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:46:57 ] <Asteroid> Confed2 This is a "dive right in" event. If there's something that needs to be done, just step forward and say, "I'd like to help out by doing SUCH and such." Because we're all over the world, we have no way of knowing each others' strengths and abilities -- otherwise I assure you that you'd have been "volunteered" long ago!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:47:24 ] <Stan> Seriously, once we solidified the site, we felt that it was important thing to do, we now are more comforable talking to vendors and speakers
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:47:51 ] <Confed2> Well, I'll give you a little insight.........I'm the Owner of Centari Computers, hopefully...most have you have heard of it
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:48:17 ] <trixer> Confed2, sorry to say, no I haven't :(
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:48:42 ] <Confed2> Ok, try this later on......http://pages.sssnet.com/Confed2
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:48:54 ] <trixer> Confed2, ok will do! :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:48:56 ] <freiheit> Centari Computers sell PCs with OS/2 preloaded, last I checked
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:49:03 ] <Asteroid> Confed2 Well, then, for starters... perhaps you could present a session on some sort of hardware-specific info that people want to know about. Like "how to choose a scanner" (that's off the top of my head).
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:49:14 ] <freiheit> so their presence at Warpstock will be very much appreciated, I'm sure :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:49:33 ] <mandie> or CD-R/w
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:49:42 ] <Confed2> I would, but I'm looking for a scanner myself! LOL
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:49:44 ] <trixer> !ask warpstock
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:49:46 ] <VoiceBot> [warpstock] http://www.warpstock.org for information (mandie)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:49:54 ] <Confed2> Same on the CD-R!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:50:10 ] <mandie> Confed2: then you should be ready by Oct 16 :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:50:24 ] <os2hq> Confed: I'd like to see a session on "Designing OS/2 Preload Stacks".... or maybe I'll just do that myself. ???
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:50:37 ] <MADodel> If I were attending I'd do a session on writing letters to the US DOJ.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:50:44 ] <os2hq> MAD: lol!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:50:45 ] <jokerl> hehe
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:50:50 ] <Confed2> I will be, I'm working on getting some new stuff in to test.......We don't sell anything that we haven't tested first in OS/2!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:50:55 ] <trixer> perhaps I could convince a bay networks rep to show up
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:51:03 ] <Asteroid> Confed2 Well, pick a topic on which you feel technically comfortable, but which others always seem to ask about. Scanners and CD-R/W are just a few of those.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:51:05 ] <os2hq> Say, is anybody leaving a "Will Call" ticket for Janet Reno and that other fellow??
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:51:08 ] <Swordedge> Is there a need for someone (like centari) to loan warpstock machines....
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:51:17 ] <os2hq> Joel Klein even.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:51:28 ] <trixer> or Ascend?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:51:41 ] <JimLarson> Do you have an idea yet of the background of attendees? Are most individual home users?. I'm sure if more were to attend on business for a company, the easier it would be to get vendors and speakers. Is the business world aware of this event?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:51:49 ] <TheRef> Maybe someone should invite Ralph Nader to talk?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:52:04 ] <jokerl> Yeah- for the writing to OEMs
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:52:21 ] <os2hq> Jim: I want to e-mail to some small biz mags soon.... Just need to get the addresses.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:52:21 ] <Asteroid> trixer That would be great! As (most of) you will see in the next EA, we have plenty of statistics, now, about OS/2 user demographics... including a high tie-in to the Internet.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:52:21 ] <Stan> jim:We don't ask that type of question on the signup/registration page
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:53:27 ] <Confed2> I figure most of the vendors will have their own machines. But, I will have 2 systems there, one can always be used for some thing else as long as it says where it came from
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:53:29 ] <Swordedge> by now, Asteroid knows all about surveys... ;-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:53:41 ] <mandie> swordedge: I hear ya!~
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:54:24 ] <Asteroid> JimLarson the OS/2 community, and OS/2 vendors, are largely aware of the event. The general vendors aren't, particularly, though some of us have talked it up with hardware vendors (like 3Com, in my case).
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:55:23 ] <Confed2> Hmmm, my Uncle is the President of Time-Warner in this district, I wonder if he could get me in touch with the right people at 3Com
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:55:23 ] <Stan> Jim: this is a conflict with warpstock. Business or Home users. We need businesses to underwrite the costs but there is a feeling that it should be mostly for indivdual and soho
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:55:51 ] <Asteroid> os2hq Exactly what do you expect to accomplish by contacting the small business magazines? They don't list ANY sort of regional events. You'd be better off to contact all the Chicago area publications, especially any local-to-Chicago business journals.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:56:20 ] <Confed2> NEWSPAPERS!!!!!!!!! For Local they cannot be beat!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:56:45 ] <Asteroid> We don't have any real data about the makeup of last year's attendees, regarding home/business use etc. But I do have survey results from 520 OS/2 users across the board.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:56:54 ] <Confed2> Contact the Local Cable operators, Public Service announcements
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:57:05 ] <os2hq> Asteroid: You may not have read in the same waiting rooms as I have. They seemed interested in anything for SOHO.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:57:26 ] <trixer> something to think about: By the y2k, it is predicted that 80% of homes will be running a network. maybe that should be a focus since OS/2 networking is far superior than that of NT or 95/98
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:57:33 ] <DethDealr> Asteroid: I'm a SOHO OS/2 user...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:57:50 ] <Network> confed2: I have a contact at Mediaone.. And am planning to get it one our local Time Warner system...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:57:51 ] <os2hq> trix: Not only that, but 80% of homes will be running non-Y2K stuff!!!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:58:04 ] <Asteroid> Confed2 You don't need to do that much to get in touch with 3Com. They have salespeople whose JOB it is to attend local trade shows, visit prospective customers, etc. I arranged with their user group liaision to have 3Com/USR do a demo for POSSI last month, and they were delighted to do it. (Good job, too.)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:58:11 ] <Stan> The problem with a lot of magazines is that the timeframe for publication is either upon us now, or has passed for the Oct issue and Oct issue is too late
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:58:13 ] <Swordedge> I know that my brother's small business (12 people) is dependent on their network consultant. They do run thing by me but mostly do what ever they say.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:58:31 ] <os2hq> Stan: good point. I'll have to get on the ball ASAP.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:58:31 ] <trixer> os2hq, my point was, focuse on OS/2's networking capabilities
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:58:48 ] <os2hq> (not tomorrow -- got an allday onsite)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:58:53 ] <Confed2> WAIT A SEC.............How long is this tonight???
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:58:54 ] <Asteroid> os2hq What Stan said.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:59:01 ] <trixer> and the stability of the TCP/IP stack as compared to MS's
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:59:03 ] <os2hq> Aster: yep.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:59:05 ] <whgiii> Network: get Mediaone to put up on their webpage that they support OS/2 for their cable connections!!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:59:21 ] <freiheit> Confed2 typical SpeakUp session lasts about 2 hours
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:59:27 ] <Swordedge> I have the feeling that to get more SOHO, you need their vendors
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:59:28 ] <DethDealr> trixer: excellent point! I love OS/2's "networkability".
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:59:29 ] <mandie> what type of hookup will be offered for networking at Warpstock? [ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:59:29 ] <Mr_Warp> I'm o SOHO OS/2 user too...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:59:41 ] <os2hq> MrW: ditto.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:59:42 ] <mandie> <--home user
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:59:53 ] <Asteroid> Let me put the kibosh on any idea of getting Nader: You can't afford him. Big name speakers like Nader cost $5000 to walk on stage, AT A MINIMUM. Don't waste your energy on this.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:59:55 ] <trixer> <--- SOHO
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:59:56 ] <Stan> jason? Care to explain
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 7:59:58 ] <JimLarson> There is a guy (Sherman Kaplan) on WBBM radio in Chicago who does alot of short computer news stories, especially ones of interest to Chicago area residents. If the committee wants to prepare a formal announcement, it could be e-mailed to him. It would be interesting to see if he would respond and use it (BTW, he prefers Netscape over IE.)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:00:01 ] <jokerl> ah hell... <---- home user
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:00:02 ] * whgiii is an OS/2 developer
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:00:05 ] <Network> whgiii: I may have a contact but I don't know if he could do that ;)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:00:12 ] <Swordedge> Last I heard, OS/2 100 Mbit ethernet through put was much higher.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:00:17 ] <Confed2> Darn, I have to run, feel free to volunteer me for a little and talk me up a little, I'm leaving this run, so I will see it LOLOLOL
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:00:19 ] * Egon doesn't have a job so he's a home user too
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:00:28 ] <mandie> lol
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:00:33 ] <trixer> 9:00pm up 57 days, 7:31, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:00:35 ] <trixer> woops
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:00:36 ] <trixer> sorry
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:00:40 ] <Asteroid> trixer I'm just an advisor with nothing to say about the program... but speaking as an attendee (and someone who has put on several events), I'd like to see several "tracks" for networking, developers, business users, etc.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:00:41 ] <trixer> damn mouse
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:00:51 ] <jokerl> we really wanted to know trixer :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:00:57 ] * Longstaff operates a small business using warp exclusively
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:01:14 ] <whgiii> anyone intrested in anything on security and PGP perhaps ?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:01:32 ] <Confed2> Yea, I'd like to get PGP working in PMMAIL!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:01:34 ] <Arkay> whgii: sounds good to me.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:01:35 ] <Abraxas> whgiii well, I would be :-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:01:35 ] <DavidA> <-- developer and SOHO
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:01:42 ] <Asteroid> os2hq Let me say that again. DO NOT BOTHER with the small business magazines. Your energy is better spent elsewhere.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:02:05 ] <Confed2> OK, Have fun Guys, I'm here but I'm not at the Keyboard
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:02:11 ] <whgiii> Confed2: it does sorta kinda. PMMail guys did not do a very good job with it though
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:02:20 ] <Asteroid> (Please stop telling me that you're a home user. It's distracting, and doesn't qualify as statistically significant.)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:02:31 ] <Longstaff> are broadcast media worth considering?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:02:46 ] <Network> Well, As a semi formal test here.. I get about 50% better transfer rates from OS/2 V4 than Win95 on the same machine and with a cable modem.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:02:57 ] <whgiii> by the way my webpages have moved to my new domain: http://www.openpgp.net if anyone is intrested
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:03:14 ] <mandie> I have it working with pmmail...but it burps out the entire key sometimes :(
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:03:18 ] <trixer> anyone located near washington?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:03:35 ] <Arkay> trixer: which washington?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:03:47 ] <trixer> Arkay, near Tacoma
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:03:48 ] <Stan> Define 'near'
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:03:57 ] <trixer> Wash State
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:03:59 ] <whgiii> mandie: I tried to get them have me do the PGP integration but they decide to do it on their own.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:04:02 ] <Asteroid> Longstaff only if they're local to Chicago. Look, if you're local and you find out about something computer geeky going on, you might wander over, even if you don't use OS/2. But if you don't use OS/2, you're not going to drive to Chicago from Cleveland on a whim.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:04:04 ] * ptackbar is Away (Auto-Away after 20 minutes.) [Logging]
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:04:09 ] <DethDealr> trixer: I'm within 2000 miles. :-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:04:15 ] <whgiii> mandie: use MR/2 the PGP is much better :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:04:26 ] <Abraxas> whgiii Thanks .... bookmarked
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:04:34 ] <mandie> I've used pmmail since it was released....sort of like an old shoe :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:04:51 ] <trixer> just wanted to remind everyone that there are several servers in WEBBnet and performance may be better by choosing a server nearest you
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:04:58 ] <ptackbar> I have some old shoes
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:04:59 ] <Asteroid> It's entirely possible to arrange for someone to cover Email Tips and Tricks. Paul Hethmon might be a good choice for that.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:05:00 ] <mandie> hehe
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:05:06 ] <Abraxas> A friendly reminder: Tonight's drawing is open to ANYONE interested in attending Warpstock 98 in Chicago. 1st prize is a Platinum Pass a 1 night at the Wyndham Northwest. 2nd Prize is a Platinum Pass. ... If you are interested in attending, and wish to be eligible for the drawing (at the end of tonight's meeting), /msg Abraxas and choose a number between 1 and 100
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:05:07 ] <whgiii> mandie: if it's and consolance their win32 version isn't any better
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:05:15 ] <Swordedge> Asteriod, I second that. The only reason I went to the linux expo was that it was 2.5 miles from home.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:05:25 ] <mandie> whgiii: means nothing to me :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:05:40 ] <Asteroid> Hmm, perhaps an Internet track makes sense. That would enable a session on building Web sites, for instance.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:05:49 ] <Network-> swordedge: Where was it anyhow
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:05:52 ] <Agios> ptackbar, are you going to WarpStock?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:06:01 ] <mandie> internet and network tracks would be great
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:06:06 ] <ptackbar> n
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:06:08 ] <mandie> o
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:06:09 ] <ptackbar> o
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:06:10 ] <Swordedge> Network, Durham on Duke Unive Campus
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:06:11 ] <mandie> :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:06:14 ] <Agios> ptackbar, the "office" will never miss you :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:06:26 ] <ptackbar> haha
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:06:28 ] <ptackbar> you got that right
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:06:30 ] <Arkay> Is there any entertainment scheduled for warpstock, like last year?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:06:35 ] <Network-> sword: Nod
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:06:53 ] <Asteroid> In any case, I think it's rather clear that WARPSTOCK VERY MUCH NEEDS YOUR HELP. There's plenty of work to do, and if you pitch in, you can make a big difference for the OS/2 community. Even if you can't attend physically, you can still contribute in some way.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:07:16 ] <whgiii> Abraxas: I should have a final release of pgp 5.0 this week. There are still some bugs but they are in the original PGP code (not in my port) and I am too busy writting my own OpenPGP implementation to fix them.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:07:40 ] <mandie> whgiii: going to warpstock?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:07:50 ] <Asteroid> arkay I think it's scheduled that there will *be* entertainment, but with most attention on stuff like exhibits and speakers it hasn't come to the forefront. Any suggestions?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:07:51 ] <Abraxas> whgiii great .... I'll (we'll) be watching for the next release
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:08:25 ] <Swordedge> The Linux Expo had about 6 machines setup for a quake tourney. 400 Meg PII's
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:08:30 ] <ptackbar> Agios: you going?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:08:44 ] <whgiii> mandie: not sure. I have to be in Chicago at the end of August for the IETF conference. I am not sure if I can swing another conerence that soon.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:08:46 ] <Arkay> re entertainment: music is always my favorite. maybe someone who is attending is musically inclined and could sing a few songs.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:09:02 ] <Asteroid> Alas, I think we'll have to drop the idea of a journalist dunking tank.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:09:09 ] <Arkay> bummer
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:09:09 ] <Stan> Maybe stardock can do a Trials of Battle or Entrepreneur tourney
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:09:21 ] <mandie> asteroid: why...you're not going to be there?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:09:31 ] <Agios> ptackbar, probably not
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:09:34 ] <Network-> asteroid: Hey It might me hot ;) you may want that ;)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:09:36 ] <Asteroid> Arkay Perhaps, with enough planning, some of the Warpstock attendees could put together a "filk" show?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:09:40 ] <whgiii> Asteroid: hehe we could invite some from ZD. I would show up for that!!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:10:12 ] <Swordedge> Get Siskel and ebert
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:10:19 ] <Asteroid> Stan I spoke with Brad earlier today, and he's *really* psyched about Warpstock. Why don't you ask him if he'd help sponsor a tourney? (It'd sure sell more games.)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:10:20 ] <Swanee> Asteroid: A "filk" show?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:10:21 ] <Network-> whgiii: Hey How about mary joe?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:10:27 ] <Arkay> Asteroid: that would be good. maybe a message in the Warpstock mailing list could get something started.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:10:38 ] <Asteroid> mandie I refuse to be the only person dunked. :-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:10:47 ] <Asteroid> whgii *I*'m from ZD.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:10:51 ] <whgiii> can I get a quick show of hands of how many OS/2 developers are here?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:10:55 ] <mandie> asteroid: :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:11:06 ] <trixer> whgiii, full or part-time?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:11:18 ] * Longstaff raises hand
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:11:22 ] <Swanee> whgiii: me...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:11:32 ] <whgiii> trixter: with product(s) available
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:11:38 ] * Agios raises his right hand
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:11:39 ] <trixer> whgiii, I'm a part-timer
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:12:06 ] <Asteroid> Filk is a term from science fiction conventions. You take regular, known songs and create new lyrics for them. Folk --> filk. New lyrics at SF conventions are understandably SF, but could just as much be OS/2 related. It's just for fun.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:12:39 ] <Asteroid> Network- I asked Mary Jo. She declined. (Note to lurkers: she's a very good friend of mine.)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:13:03 ] <whgiii> Asteroid: ZD?!? seriously??
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:13:04 ] <Longstaff> my consultancy has no products on the market at this time...for any platform
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:13:35 ] <Swanee> Asteroid: That's good enough for me. I trust your judgement. :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:13:38 ] <Stan> Ah, filk. We could do that at the bar room, with micro brews.....
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:13:40 ] <Asteroid> whgiii Yes, I'm a ZD employee. Didn't you know?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:13:42 ] <Network-> asteroid: Ummm Oh well.. To bad.. Would have been interesting ;)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:13:52 ] <Arkay> whgii: Sm@rt Reseller is a ZD publication. Asteroid is tech editor.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:13:53 ] * JimLarson wonders if Howard Stern still uses OS/2. Now that would be entertaining!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:13:54 ] <DavidA> whgiii: raises right hand
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:13:57 ] <whgiii> Asteroid: hehe I do now
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:14:17 ] <Stevious> hmmm...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:14:20 ] <Asteroid> JimLarson No, he switched. I forget to what.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:14:21 ] <Arkay> micro brews?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:14:27 ] <trixer> Howard Stern would want to see OS/2 do a stripshow at WarpStock
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:14:27 ] <trixer> :>
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:14:40 ] <Asteroid> The guy who played "Boy" in the Tarzan movies with Johnny Weismuller is an OS/2 user, though.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:14:48 ] <whgiii> trixer: that *can* be aranged :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:14:49 ] <Longstaff> trixer - now there's an idea!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:14:57 ] <trixer> hey
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:15:01 ] <trixer> I had an idea?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:15:03 ] <Stan> Steve Garvey used to be a user too
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:15:07 ] <Agios> How does he recharge his batteries?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:15:08 ] <trixer> whoda 'thunk?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:15:10 ] <trixer> :>

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[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:17:25 ] <mandie> ok, back to warpstock
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:17:26 ] <mandie> :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:17:29 ] <ptackbar> LOL
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:17:31 ] <trixer> awwwwwwww
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:17:44 ] <mandie> seem to have gotten off on some unknown track :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:17:51 ] <ptackbar> this is all going on the webpage >:)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:17:52 ] <trixer> mandie, unknown>?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:17:52 ] <whgiii> hehehe
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:17:52 ] <ptackbar> muhahaha
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:18:08 ] <Agios> It started with Howard Stern :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:18:17 ] <mandie> he starts everything!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:18:21 ] <trixer> woopsie
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:18:27 ] * DethDealr laughs at Howard Sterns discomfort...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:18:29 ] <trixer> all going to the webpage
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:18:44 ] <Abraxas> A friendly reminder: Tonight's drawing is open to ANYONE interested in attending Warpstock 98 in Chicago. 1st prize is a Platinum Pass a 1 night at the Wyndham Northwest. 2nd Prize is a Platinum Pass. ... If you are interested in attending, and wish to be eligible for the drawing (at the end of tonight's meeting), /msg Abraxas and choose a number between 1 and 100
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:19:03 ] <trixer> I pick number ummmmmm -087
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:19:13 ] <mandie> how many ppl here tonight have volunteered to help at Warpstock?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:19:16 ] <SunnyBear> hehehhe
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:19:26 ] * Swanee did
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:19:40 ] <mandie> swanee: great :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:19:47 ] <DethDealr> Asteroid: I just noticed your note about seeing you. good one!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:19:53 ] <Network-> Me ;)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:20:18 ] <DavidA> Asteroid: What about a track/session on setting up a home/soho network?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:20:36 ] <mandie> come on guys...Warpstock is about YOU and without you..there's no warpstock
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:20:37 ] * Abraxas will show up sometime Friday Afternoon, and once the VOICE booth is setup, I'll be available
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:20:43 ] * DethDealr sadly will not be able to attend Warpstock and can only drool over the details...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:20:48 ] <Asteroid> DavidA sounds like a good idea to me. Do you know anybody whom you think would be especially suitable to run it?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:20:53 ] <Swanee> DavidA: Good idea. A poor mans setup as well as the top of the line...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:21:15 ] <Arkay> mandie: i'll give it some thought and see what I can do to help. i still don't know if i'll make it.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:21:30 ] <Arkay> DavidA: are you volunteering to give the session?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:21:31 ] <Arkay> :-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:21:45 ] <mandie> Arkay: there's things that need to be done remotely also :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:21:53 ] <mandie> arkay: but hope you make it
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:22:11 ] <DavidA> Arkay: Somehow I knew....I guess I could.......
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:22:29 ] <Asteroid> DethDealr You can STILL help Warpstock be a success, even if you can't get there in person. There's plenty of work to do ahead of time, which can all be done remotely, and mostly at times that are convenient for you. Help design a flier, to be stuffed in Indelible Blue outgoing boxes. ...and so on. Stan can give you ideas.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:22:53 ] <mandie> DavidA: go for it..there are alot of folks that are asking questions..would be very helpful
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:23:09 ] <Stan> Yes, there is a BIG need for a graphic artist right now
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:23:15 ] <ptackbar> like webmastering
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:23:34 ] <DavidA> Who's the Warpstock program-person?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:23:38 ] <Asteroid> Arkay If you're willing to help but don't know how... just make sure your name is on the list, and give an idea of the things you like doing, or are good at doing. Someone will be sure to make use of you, so that you CAN contribute to Warpstock's success!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:23:40 ] <Stan> Yes, we have a need for a new webmaster!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:23:42 ] <DethDealr> Asteroid: Good point! I have SmartSuite for OS/2 so I can do anything! ;-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:23:55 ] <mandie> http://www.warpstock.org/volunteer.html
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:23:56 ] <mandie> :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:24:06 ] <Asteroid> yes yes yes We're desperately in need of someone to help with the Web site.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:24:18 ] <Stan> The person for the exhibits is john hubert -- the speakers are tom rowe
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:24:43 ] <SunnyBear> what is it that you need for the web?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:24:53 ] <trixer> wb lbf
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:25:03 ] <os2hq> Okay, time for me to go, folks. Big day tomorrow. Thanx to everyone for coming, esp. Warpstock people!! (BTW, do I have to present at the *** drawing *** to win?)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:25:25 ] <ptackbar> SunnyBear: someone to take it over :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:25:59 ] <SunnyBear> how much time has it been taking ptackbar?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:26:01 ] <Arkay> Asteroid: okay (about volunteering)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:26:09 ] <Asteroid> Thanks, Arkay. :-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:26:21 ] <Stan> yeah, so that when I say in Warpstock: it will be fixed, it is
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:26:53 ] <NewOrder> trixer when you get the time I'm going to need your help with dealing with the internic :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:27:06 ] <trixer> NewOrder, pray
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:27:10 ] <trixer> :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:27:12 ] <ptackbar> SunnyBear: not much so far because I don't have time to put into it :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:27:13 ] <NewOrder> hahahahhahahha
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:27:21 ] <SunnyBear> we have an internic black bullwhip
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:27:27 ] <Stevious> what have I missed?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:27:28 ] <trixer> NewOrder, lotsa faxes and phonecalls
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:27:36 ] <NewOrder> trixer can you be secondary DNS for me?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:28:11 ] <SunnyBear> later NewOrder
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:28:12 ] <Stevious> what did Asteroid volunteer me for while I was on the phone?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:28:13 ] <Asteroid> Stevious, we just put you in charge of five or six things. I'm sure you won't mind. :-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:28:27 ] <NewOrder> ohh it's not 10PM yet... sorry :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:28:32 ] <trixer> NewOrder, later...ok?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:28:35 ] <Stevious> Asteroid: cool, as long as it's not on NT...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:29:14 ] <Asteroid> Stevious, you're such a sweetheart. Anybody else would have gotten scared or upset. :-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:29:19 ] <SunnyBear> ptackbar: referencing last year, was it an all consuming job? :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:29:29 ] <mandie> stevious: are you going to warpstock this year?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:29:30 ] <Stevious> :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:29:55 ] <Stevious> mandie: I think so... as long as Buzzard will let me hang at his place for the weekend
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:29:56 ] <ptackbar> SunnyBear: not all consuming, no
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:30:06 ] <mandie> great!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:30:19 ] <SunnyBear> If I volunteer to take it, I sure wouldn't want to do less than an exemplary job for Warpstock98
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:30:35 ] <Network-> Well, Folks any last network questions? I have a 4:00 Lima start time Tues ;)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:30:46 ] <Arkay> Well, I just signed up as a volunteer at the web site.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:30:52 ] <SunnyBear> that is if the powers that be felt my work is good enough..
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:31:07 ] <trixer> Network-, ospf....can it be done easily on Ascend MAX's
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:31:10 ] <mandie> arkay: thx!!! :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:31:17 ] <SunnyBear> nevermind...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:31:18 ] <Asteroid> Hmm, it's been 1.5 hours. Surely it's time to give out the prizes, and wrap up the formal part of the meeting? Then people can hang out if they like.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:31:32 ] <mandie> asteroid: we're about to do just that :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:31:41 ] <Stan> Gee, I thought there would be more questions?!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:31:56 ] <Asteroid> Stan you answered them before people got a chance to ask. :-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:32:09 ] <Swanee> Haha, there probably will be Stan, :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:32:09 ] <SunnyBear> why is the sky blue?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:32:14 ] <trixer> Stan, I really think the warpStock team has done a exemplary job
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:32:20 ] <Swordedge> there would be but I'm also watching Sliders
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:32:24 ] <mandie> arkay: now that I can do :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:32:26 ] <trixer> Network-, ?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:32:43 ] <Stan> Sunnybear: oxygen
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:32:52 ] <Network-> sunnybear: Nitrogen in the atmosphere ;)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:33:07 ] <Network-> trixer: Yep..
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:33:15 ] <SunnyBear> all the "gen's", eh?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:33:16 ] <mandie> lol
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:33:20 ] <Abraxas> LAST CHANCE!!! A friendly reminder: Tonight's drawing is open to ANYONE interested in attending Warpstock 98 in Chicago. 1st prize is a Platinum Pass and 1 night at the Wyndham Northwest. 2nd Prize is a Platinum Pass. ... If you are interested in attending, and wish to be eligible for the drawing (at the end of tonight's meeting), /msg Abraxas and choose a number between 1 and 100
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:33:44 ] <SunnyBear> and here I thought it was the particulate...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:33:47 ] <Swanee> Arkay: haha, got it!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:33:49 ] <trixer> Network-, we have a MAX 4804 thats misbehaving...its thinking all the ospf broadcasts are static routes...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:34:08 ] <Asteroid> Hmm... is there any interest in a panel discussion about "OS/2 and the press"? I can ask a few journalists if they'd be willing to attend, but being in Chicago makes that somewhat unlikely.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:34:40 ] <Swordedge> did the snmp engine for ospf once
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:34:45 ] <trixer> A Cisco 7507 is broadcasting the routes
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:34:45 ] <Arkay> Asteroid: I would say that would definatley be an interesting panel, if possible.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:35:04 ] <Arkay> Abraxas: I'm tired, lets have the drawing. :-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:35:08 ] <trixer> nevermind
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:35:18 ] <Network-> trixer: ummm Interesting Don't know all that much about the MAX's Only have one little one.. not much util.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:35:48 ] <Network-> mostly cisco stuff. All of my 7500's work great...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:35:49 ] <Asteroid> Most of the journalists I've spoken with are sure that they'd need bulletproof jackets. They don't perceive this as a crowd that would actually listen to what they said. Just throw rotten eggs.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:36:16 ] <freiheit> could be a reason for them to have that feeling :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:36:24 ] <Arkay> Asteroid: I'd bet that in person, everyone would at least try to be more polite.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:36:27 ] <Network-> asteroid: Hey we can't bring any outside food in member! They are safe ;)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:36:29 ] <Asteroid> How is this going to work, Abraxas? Whatever number SunnyBear picks, you choose the person with the closest-to-it number?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:36:39 ] <DethDealr> Asteroid: I'd be willing to be in a give-n-take with Journalists. My wife is a local journalist. :-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:36:46 ] <Longstaff> Asteriod - i' concerned it wound turn negative...we need things we can feel good about
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:36:47 ] <Arkay> and with someone controlling the discussion, a mediator so to speak, it might not get out of hand.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:36:58 ] <Asteroid> Arkay YOU might bet that. But I know what sort of email I've gotten... if I didn't know better, I wouldn't have that expectation.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:37:08 ] <SunnyBear> Asteroid: bulletproof, eh... must be powerful rotten eggs..
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:37:13 ] <MADodel> Perhaps metal detectors may be required at the doors?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:37:25 ] <Arkay> e-mail is different than in person. it's harder to flame someone when you have to look them in the eye.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:37:25 ] <Network-> arkay: Yeah with a whip >:)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:37:44 ] <DethDealr> Arkay: you've noticed that too? ;-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:37:49 ] <mandie> arkay: I disagree...my tongue goes faster than my fingers :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:37:51 ] <whgiii> Arkay: no, no it's not
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:37:53 ] <Abraxas> Asteroid yes .... SunnyBear will pick a number between 1 and 100 and /msg me .... I'll match the number to the contestants and the closest wins 1st prize .... second closest wins 2nd prize
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:38:29 ] <Asteroid> Arkay I know that, because I've met a lot of OS/2 users, including some who are abusive in email but wimpy in person. But most general computer journalists don't have the same experience, and make the understandable assumption that the attackers will continue to attack.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:38:36 ] <Swanee> I've got some great jokes about those guy's though...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:39:01 ] <Asteroid> Okay, Abraxas. We're waiting.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:39:28 ] <Swordedge> arms folded accross chest too
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:39:38 ] <Arkay> Asteroid: it's not only true for OS/2 users. I've noticed it since I've been on-line.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:39:58 ] <Arkay> And the number is....
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:40:10 ] <Abraxas> The number is .........
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:40:12 ] <mandie> And the winners are........................
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:40:15 ] <Abraxas> 11
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:40:30 ] <Asteroid> Arkay I agree... but I've seen some of the email the Nasty OS/2ers send, and it's far worse than ANYthing else I've encountered. And I've been online since 1984.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:40:37 ] <Abraxas> os2r picked 9 .... he wins 1st place
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:40:58 ] <Abraxas> Asteroid picked 18 .... 7 off ... she wins 2nd
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:41:05 ] <trixer> whoa!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:41:06 ] <SunnyBear> woiooi oooo
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:41:07 ] <Asteroid> <>
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:41:12 ] <SunnyBear> ROFL
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:41:12 ] <trixer> I wuz robbed
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:41:17 ] <Agios> Congrats Asteroid :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:41:20 ] <mandie> Congrats folks!~!!!!!!!!! :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:41:21 ] <Swordedge> dont faint asteroid
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:41:27 ] <trixer> I demand a recount
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:41:31 ] <Swanee> Yea os2r and asteroid! SPEECH, SPEECH!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:41:31 ] <SunnyBear> Congrats to os2r and Asteroid
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:41:37 ] <mandie> guess we'll have to stick her in some water to revive her :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:41:40 ] <Abraxas> os2r wins a Platinum Pass and 1 night at the Wyndham Northwest
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:41:47 ] <Abraxas> Asteroid wins a Platinum Pass
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:41:52 ] <Arkay> Congradulations winners. (#$$%#)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:41:54 ] <trixer> you *GO* GIRL!!!!!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:41:56 ] <MADodel> Anyone here run BA/2 Pro by any chance?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:42:04 ] <Swordedge> yes
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:42:11 ] <JimLarson> MADodel: I do
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:42:20 ] <Network-> madodel: Yes...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:42:20 ] <DethDealr> MADodel: nope, Novaback.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:42:22 ] <trixer> wait
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:42:24 ] <Asteroid> Cool! (And just think, I had had to plan to call BMT Micro to explain that I wanted TWO tickets, not one, like they charged me. Now I don't have to!)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:42:41 ] <Asteroid> Thanks, VOICE.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:42:43 ] <SunnyBear> Asteroid: that's wonderful...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:42:44 ] <trixer> I picked -11...doesn't that count for anything?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:42:54 ] <MADodel> JimLarson: Would you happen to have the latest version of CLREST.EXE available?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:42:55 ] <trixer> j/k
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:43:00 ] <SunnyBear> hehehe
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:43:03 ] <Arkay> I knew I should have dcc'ed Abraxas some cash. :-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:43:04 ] <DethDealr> trixer: I picked 22 we tied! ;-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:43:10 ] <mandie> Thanks to the VOICE members, we are happy to be able to support Warpstock 98 :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:43:12 ] <JimLarson> I picked 2 ... I though OS/2 might have some influence
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:43:13 ] <trixer> bwahahahahaha
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:43:21 ] <Asteroid> trixer Did you really? If that's what Abraxas has, I'll give up #2.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:43:23 ] <mandie> Jim: NOT :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:43:35 ] <SunnyBear> and WEBBnet is happy to support both VOICE and Warpstock98
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:43:39 ] * trixer sends big mucho congrats to the lucky winners
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:43:40 ] <Arkay> Asteroid: he said negative 11 (-11)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:44:03 ] <trixer> Asterois that was a minus 11...I was only joking
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:44:09 ] <Arkay> Well, since I didn't win, I'm leaving.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:44:11 ] <Asteroid> Ah, Arkay. Okay.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:44:16 ] <Arkay> :-)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:44:19 ] <Asteroid> trixer I didn't want to be a sore winner.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:44:20 ] <Agios> doesn't pooh have airconditioning?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:44:27 ] <Arkay> Great job, Warpstock people.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:44:38 ] <Network-> Bye all See you at warpstock!!!!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:44:46 ] <Arkay> You got me to volunteer, which isn't an easy task.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:44:47 ] <mandie> Network: keep up the good work :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:44:53 ] <Asteroid> Well, I'm going to go off and drown my not-sorrows. Not to mention find some dinner!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:44:54 ] <trixer> Asteroid, we were ineligible.....enjoy yer tickets and gloat...you deserve it :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:45:13 ] <TheRef> Network-: Hey, anything that keeps you out of NY for a time! ;)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:45:33 ] <Asteroid> G'night, all.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:45:41 ] <mandie> asteroid: g'night..thx for coming
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:45:45 ] <DethDealr> This is a blast folks! I'll definitely return for more. Maybe next time I'll get the time difference correct. :-/
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:45:47 ] <JimLarson> MADodel: yes
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:45:51 ] <trixer> that was fun
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:45:53 ] <trixer> :>
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:46:03 ] <mandie> I'd like to thank everyone that attended tonight ...and hope to see you all at Warpstock! :)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:46:11 ] <Swordedge> next meeting is......
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:46:22 ] <Abraxas> Next Monday
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:46:22 ] <trixer> always glad to see people happy when they come to WEBBnet
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:46:25 ] <TheRef> Maybe next time, I'll know how to use this IRC thingie! >:
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:46:33 ] <Swordedge> topic
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:46:34 ] <Network-> theref: Hey, Now now, I spend enough time out of the state/country ;)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:46:39 ] <freiheit> Next Monday is another SpeakUp, is it not?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:46:43 ] <Abraxas> Kim Rasmussen (sp?)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:46:49 ] <Network-> Damn, Here comes the NSA now ;)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:46:50 ] <Abraxas> Inet Adventurer
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:46:51 ] <freiheit> with Kim Rasmussen, author of Internet Adventurer
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:46:54 ] <MADodel> JimLarson: my version keeps choking on paths with spaces in it. Any idea if the newest version handles that?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:47:10 ] <TheRef> Network-: You DO know Norm's in Rochester?...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:47:26 ] <Swordedge> bye guys
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:47:29 ] <JimLarson> MADodel: what version do you have?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:47:39 ] * DethDealr wishes all a good night...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:47:47 ] <Swanee> Nite DethDealr
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:47:48 ] <trixer> deth: nite
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:47:51 ] <freiheit> the log of tonight's SpeakUp session will be posted to the VOICE website later tonight (http://www.os2voice.org/)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:47:56 ] <Network-> theref: Yep, He's doing good being retired ;)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:48:04 ] <MADodel> JimLarson: it's dated 05/07/97
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:48:24 ] <TheRef> Network-: Been to TheRef(tm) lately?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:48:38 ] <Abraxas> anyone know how to contact os2r ?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:48:56 ] <Network-> theref: last month I went back.. you fix the link to black box yet?
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:49:06 ] <trixer> Abraxas, I think he pretty much stays in #os2prog on efnet
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:49:21 ] <Abraxas> trixer thanks .... I'll look there
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:49:35 ] <TheRef> Network-: I didn't know I had one!! (??)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:50:17 ] <Network-> theref: It might not be "Black Box" but The one with all the cable diagrams...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:50:53 ] <Network-> theref: A Great reasource, Almost as good as theref(tm)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:51:12 ] <DavidA> night all...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:51:16 ] <TheRef> Network-: Let me know if you find any broken links. I thought I got them all, but it's a bit much to check 4000 pages.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:52:07 ] <TheRef> Not likely... I'm a homebody since my traveling days.
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:52:17 ] <Network-> theref: Will Do.. Have to get to work at 4am tues so I'll talk to you later...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:52:38 ] <TheRef> Bye Y'all!
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:52:49 ] <freiheit> I'll be going now--thanks to the Warpstock people for coming out tonight and I hope this year's event is twice as enjoyable as last year's (even if I'm not there)
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:52:59 ] <Network-> C everyone later...
[ 7-27-98 ] [ 8:53:03 ] <JimLarson> Good evening, everyone